Poor little bunny....check our youtube under man flu...great british comedian....taking the p... with you guys and the flu.
Get better soon...I suffer from insomnia so I sympathize.
Chiken little
this time, i'm sick.. i can't sleep, and i don't want to have a drink.. i think i have the flu.. i just hope it's not the oink!.
warlock .
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Poor little bunny....check our youtube under man flu...great british comedian....taking the p... with you guys and the flu.
Get better soon...I suffer from insomnia so I sympathize.
Chiken little
the thing is, a lot of us thought we'd never die.
do you comprehend what a truly massive mind-fuck that is?
when i was embroiled in doubts and knew i was heading 'out of the truth' i remember waves of nausea hitting me.
I never believed I would live forever.........why me? I felt less worthy than many of the billions that lived a life of extreme poverty without any means of changing it. I lived in relative plenty, I have had a good life...I am now 49 and I have seen my children grow up and also have a good life. Why should I want more? I use to study with people and tell them all about the paradise, yet deep down inside I just did not believe it.
We live our life now...it is often unfair and difficult. There is no way around that except dying. I prefer the reality of life to the pie in the sky dream.
regret, anger, frustration?
how about sadness, sorrow, sympathy, understanding, even compassion!.
it can be quite confusing at times, especially if some of those witnesses were your friends.
The song ...those were the days my friend...come to mind. I want to wake them up but usually just smile and walk on by.
today the weather in sw ohio is gorgeous.
breezy, low 80's, lots of sunshine.
the kids and i ate breakfast on the patio.
I have had a Carpe Diem day...here in scandanavia we have had the hottest and sunniest April on record. So today we grilled outside with the kids, drank white wine on the terrace and just lapped it up....so lovely with all the spring flowers coming out and the apple trees just about to burst out in blossom. Enjoy life while you can everyone it is so wonderful.
my mother became a jw when i was six months old so i was brought up within the confines of the organisation.
i left properly in my early twenties and i am now 43 so a good 22 years of life, post being a witness have i travelled and documented thus far.
mine was a typical experience of a child in the congregation and i was busy doing my best to be a little adult as the child within slowly fell asleep.
Lovely words.
i am hoping you can help me.
i have a very dear friend of over 20 years, who was brought up jw.
our children are friends and we have vacationed and been like sisters all these years.
I know my friends that are still in really miss me....I also know that they do sometimes cross the line and come over and go for coffee, to the movies or out shopping with me...I view all of this as positive and I dont give up on them as long as we keep the mutual respect...no discussions on jw stuff. Who knows what may happen?
i am hoping you can help me.
i have a very dear friend of over 20 years, who was brought up jw.
our children are friends and we have vacationed and been like sisters all these years.
Hej searchinggirl,
No easy anwser to this one. Mutual respect is just about the only way to make a go of it. You both express your desire to maintain a friendship, but there would have to be "rules", no discussing of religion or bringing it into the conversation to make the other person feel uncomfortable. My dear friend stopped as a witness 14 years before I did. I wanted to keep her as a friend and I did. She was fantastic and NEVER expressed critic of my beliefs. I in return never gave her a guilt trip, we kept to our friendship through thick and thin. She was overjoyed two years ago when I told her I was leaving the JWs for good.
So ask your friend straight out if she wants to continue the friendship on those terms. If the anwser is no, then I dont see any other way than for you both to part for the time being. When you have "studied" as you have for eight months you are well on your way to having the witness mindset imprinted on your lifestyle...that is not healthy and if you keep being exposed to it you will find yourself in a very uncomfortable place, as you even now are experiencing.
Hope you can keep your friend, I know how you feel. Now I am out I have 2 friends I try to keep contact with. I do not respond to any information about the meetings , mags, assemblies etc, other than saying I hope they had a nice time. I then change the subject to something else, family, work, food anything. I also make sure I talk about how happy I am and busy (I do a lot of volunteer work now). I hope you can try this and see if it works for you.
Kind regards
Chicken little
from reading people's stories and life experiences i thought i'd poll the members here for some advice.
my inlaws are extremely toxic.
i know, every person says that about their inlaws, but the way they treat their family is absolutely horrible.
Strange how an old thread can be so actual. I started therapy 6 weeks ago to deal with problems in my relationship with my husband due to toxic parenting. Even after both my parents are dead I still react at times as if I hear their voice coming from my husband. It takes training to be the child/adult and cope with the feelings that rush up when you are so vunerable. When I read your original thread I saw myself 100%. My husband was also dismayed to see his intelligent wife revert to a child whenever we visited my parents.
I would clean their house, shop, by them presents anything for some form of recognition...never love...I knew that was out of the question. I would even tell my husband where he could sit or not...my fathers chair was out of the question. If he tried to get me to question my behaviour I would feel intense anxiety. I was often ill for 6 weeks after a visit to their place.
I am having NLT therapy to try to unite the child/adult to cope with the negative input. It was very interesting when I was asked where I felt myself as a grown women...I pointed to my stomach. When asked where I felt the child, my hand flew up to my throat and I couldnt say the word.
It was most interesting as I have always been articulate in most situations except when I am in conflict with my husband that triggers the child to react. I go completely quiet, silence, for as long as it takes. It was a protective action that worked for me as a child as they could not get into my mind. It is not very productive as a grown woman, but unfortunatly one of the first responces that the brain uses as it worked then.
I believe that my cutting off all contact with my parents saved my life, I was so depressed and suicidal. Yet even so there are after effects from such an action which many would consider too drastic. My husband knows that I do not believe he is my father or that he would ever treat me as he did, yet he does not understand that his reaction to me at times triggers negative memories deep down that then take over the show.
The therapy helps....so if anyone else is in this situation...give it a try. If you dont have the money...get books...join a self help group.
Chicken little
a chick emailed me, she said "if anything, i will see you next week".
what does "if anything" mean?.
If anything, it wasnt me....chicken little
jws & atheists - great (cultic) minds think alike.
in the jehovahs witness religion, there is a ceremony known in those circles as the memorial of christs death, or just the memorial for short.
it is claimed and believed among members that jehovahs witnesses observe the exact same ceremony that is more widely known as the lords supper among christians.
Christians = honest, loving, moral, reliable, peaceloving etc. etc. etc.????
Athiests = evil, dishonest, warmaking, immoral, hateful etc.etc.????
Seeing as true out of the cupboard athiesm is kind of young.....its difficult to judge its track record. But this I do know only from personal experience, athiests who declare they are such, tend to be very much in touch with what is going on in the world and often involved in humane projects.
Christianity and its track record....we dont really want to go there do we?